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Michael, once again you have made a strong case that there is a fundamental flaw in all liberal defenses of democracy as it is now practiced in the United States. How can the over worked, under paid, and poorly educated "masses" possibly be good judges of who should rule? Here we are in complete agreement.

On the other hand, I would like to play the Devils Advocate: You suggest as an alternative something like the random selection of jurors vetted be a Judge be the one's to select our rulers. Okay, leaving side the details of who and by what criteria the jurors are to be vetted, there appears to be a fundamental disanalogy between a jury trial and the selection of rulers, namely, the jurors in a trial have no vested interests in the outcome of the trial. No judge would allow the mother of the defendant to be one of the jurors. But citicizens selecting their rulers, clearly do have a vest interested. The rich will favor candidates who read Milton Friedman and National Review: readers of Plato will not.

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Ah, Michael, I should have known that you were too smart to get caught by either horn of my too obvious dilemma and escape through the middle! So, okay, I'll agree that there is no simple "least change" principle which resolves difficult, "on the ground" issues of justice. Even when you and I argee that Plato's vision of a "just republic", we can't agree on the "first step" to take given the passage of 2500 hundred years of history.

So let's try a "non-dilemma." We both agree that (1) "liberal democracy" is NOT the best form of government and (2) rule by the rich will never be just. To correct the first you've purposed a "Constitutioal Convention"; for the second you've purposed a "Legislative" change, namely, no ruler can have a net wealth of over 10 million dollars. My "gut" instinct is start with a legislative change (say, moving toward something like the 92% top tax rate of the Eisenhower era). Such a first step, it seems to me, would certainly satisfy your insistence that we set difficult goals for ourselves!

Any comments?

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